Episode 48: No Sleep and On Drugs


Our super listener¬†Joyce Wans (that Steph met in Vegas) joins the discussion today to share with our listeners her “Then and Now” project. She has spent a good portion of the summer organizing and getting ready to visit her childhood home and ask the current owner if she could take some photos. Hear how she went about doing it, what she would do differently, and what she learned. Katie, Steph, and Peppermint also share what aspects of this project they are going to (or have already) conquered.

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Joining the Discussion:

Joyce Wans
Peppermint Granberg

Katie Nelson

From the Show:


Joyce: Now and Then | University of Florida Then & Now | Young Me / Now Me
Peppermint: Dear Sugar (column | book)
Katie: Be Happy
Steph: The Things I Really Like About My Mac
1. Drag and drop to install programs.
2. It’s much lighter than my PC.



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52 Responses to Episode 48: No Sleep and On Drugs

  1. BlueFeathered1 says:

    OMG! This is just what it sounded like when we recorded the show. I had hopes for the editing but this is exactly what we said. I had a great time y’all. Thanks for the invite.

  2. Jennifer says:

    Shout out from Logan, Ut! Joyce, I am so glad you are enjoying our beautiful Cache Valley summer and rasberry shakes!!!

    Any other Cache Valley listeners out there who want to start a local chapter of TheDigiShow fan club? We could meet at the Bluebird and discuss the show over cherry ironports.

    • BlueFeathered1 says:

      I just came home from the Mendon Photography Club meeting. Such nice people! Everyone we meet is just so nice — it makes everyday events a pleasure and I think really encourages everyone else to be nice, too. This all seems a little too “nice” but it is what it is!

      I have not made it to the Bluebird yet — when’s the meeting, Jennifer? I’ll be easy to spot, I’m the one without the blue feathers!

    • Chelle says:

      Me! Me! Me!

      Jennifer, shoot me an email & we can work out details: chelles.creations1@gmail.com

    • Lynnette says:

      Well, I’m not in cache valley, but I’m less than an hour away! I’d drive up to chat with you ladies for sure. Joyce, I LOVED hearing about your project, now I want to see some of those photos you got! I also remember you from Vegas, but I don’t know if we ever really “met” there – I just remember your comments in classes, thanks for the laughs!

  3. Teri Merkins says:

    Can I just tell people to not stop listening after Steph signs off? I almost did and I would have missed the fun at the end!

    • BlueFeathered1 says:

      So true, Teri. Of course I heard it at the beginning of the show but I was not able to pay full attention at the time because I was busy wondering what I got myself into! After the show Steph talked about leaving the countdown part in and I was a little disappointed when I didn’t hear it at the beginning of the show. Then I figured she was just being nice to Katie as Katie was on drugs! (The truth is that Katie has had only one muscle relaxer in the last week but that doesn’t mean we didn’t get to make fun of her!) So you know that Steph and Peppermint were on short sleep and that Katie was drugged out of her mind — my affliction is simply that I’m old!

  4. Laurel says:

    Another great show, ladies! Joyce, you made me jealous — I LOVE Logan! Go Aggies and fresh raspberry shakes. You have to promise me you’ll eat lots of Aggie Ice Cream while you’re there, too. The Lemon Custard is one of my favorites, but really you can’t go wrong with any flavor.

    Steph–another move? Holy Cow! If you drive through the Tri-Cities on your way to Idaho I’ll gladly feed your family :) I’m so glad to hear that you’re finding things you like about your Mac. I thought one thing would be unzipping. I remembering listening to you ladies/reading on TDD about how to unzip and I was so confused, because my kits automatically unzip or I just have to double click on them.

    I loved the topic today. Very interesting. My parents have been in the same home for over 40 years, I can’t imagine them not being in it. They’ve redecorated a lot, and I would love a good photo of my mom’s orange/avocado green/yellow flowered wallpaper from the 70s.

    I can’t wait for the 50th episode! Thanks again.


    • iDebbie says:

      Automatic unzipping on a Mac is a Safari thing. It’s chosen in preferences. I love it!

    • BlueFeathered1 says:

      We are really loving Logan, too, Laurel. I love the Aggie Blue Mint ice cream. My Mom always told us not to eat blue food, but she had never had Aggie Blue Mint ice cream! I like Bull Tracks, too. The Golden Corral buffet here serves Aggie ice cream on their dessert bar — they only have four flavors but you can have unlimited scoops. So far I have restricted myself to two scoops per visit but there is no guarantee that will be the case if they include lemon custard — probably my next favorite flavor!

      Go back through Mom & Dad’s photos! Maybe your folks will let you digitize their photos now. Many photos eventually start to look orange/avocado green/yellow flowered even if the room was azure and topaz. Then after you’ve studied the old photos, consider trying the Young Me / Now Me approach and recreate some of the old pictures. You know, if there is a 20-year-old photo of you wearing a striped top and sitting on the sofa, put on a striped top and sit on the sofa in as close to the same position as you can.

    • steph says:

      Right now, I’m lucky if I can FIND the downloaded folders after they download…lol! ;)

      I’m hoping to con my husband into letting me and the girls fly to ID once the movers pack up and leaving the boys here to finish cleaning and driving the car, dog, hamster, and scrapbooks….haha! It worked in my favor moving here, so we’ll see if I can swing it again!

      • Laurel says:

        Good luck on that aspect of the move! The cleaning is always the worst part…I’m always tempted to just leave it. Thank goodness for friends to help out.

        As for those hard-to-find downloads — they’re in the downloads folder on your mac ;) I am so proud of you for not giving up (and for recording a show on it, too! Hang in there.

        If I lived by you, I’d come help you pack/clean or bring you dinner. I’ll just send you good vibes, instead.

    • BlueFeathered1 says:

      Yeah, yeah, me again. I encourage you to think about photographing the “treasures” in your family home while they are still there. And interview your family about the back-stories of the objects, while they’re still available to talk about them! I am so glad that I did this with my Mom when I could. As the project went on the comments from Mom were shorter and I didn’t stay on it soon enough. We both enjoyed the discussions. For example we learned we both think that a cheap, little vase that my Grandma got as a prize at sewing club, is something that we both think is a real treasure. If your family treasures aren’t documented explaining why they are family treasures they will soon be considered junk and your family will be poorer for it. It’s a fun and meaningful project.

  5. Tina says:

    Yea for another great show ladies! I loved listening to Joyce describe her Then and Now project; it couldn’t have been more timely. For a while now I have felt an urgency to go back through the boxes and retrieve the best of the best and start telling “my” story. I’ve always been drawn to the “now and then” pages by Ali Edwards and Jessica Sprague. So I have to share my ‘pick of the week'; last week my daughter and I were in Barnes and Noble and after several trips us and down the escalator we were making our way up (again) to the bathroom. My patience was wearing thin. As we were on our way back down the elevator, a book jumped off the shelf and grabbed me. I swear I heard angels singing and without thinking twice I was in line to purchase this $30 book. The book is called “My Life and Times ~ A Guided Journal for Collecting Your Stories” by Sunny Morton. The book also comes with a cd that allows you to print additional pages to add to your journal. I am so excited about this book and getting my stories told. On the inside cover there is a quote by William Wordsworth ~ Fill your paper with the breathings of your heart. That is exactly what I intend to do. :)

    • BlueFeathered1 says:

      I am so looking for that book, Tina. I am very (and I mean VERY) attracted to books like that but I confess I never really use them as intended. On the other hand I always find inspiration and ideas I can incorporate into what I am doing. This may be my next victim! To Amazon! I don’t have a B&N here or at least I haven’t found it yet. Thanks for the tip.

      • Tina says:

        I plan on blogging alot of my memories using prompts from the book and scanning old photos to go with the stories. I’m super excited about this. The only way I’m going to be motivated to get all my old pictures organized and scanned is to have a project like this. My plan is to devote a few hours every Friday to go through pictures and scan the best ones, and then have a Memory Monday post on my blog. Of course none of this will happen until September and my little darlings are back in school.

        • steph says:

          This sounds like a great project!! See, there is a method of memory keeping for everyone! ;)

        • BlueFeathered1 says:

          Hey, Tina, I found the book on Amazon and it does look great. You may want to consider something I do: I carry a little notebook in my purse to jot down story ideas about me and my family. They can strike anywhere and I can rarely remember when I got home and have a quiet moment, what that fabulous idea was. I can remember that I had a great idea, I just can’t remember the idea! This way I can look in the notebook and search for a good photo and if I don’t find it for a couple of weeks that’s cool because I haven’t lost the idea.

          • Tina says:

            I totally agree Joyce! I have all kinds of notebooks floating around. I was especially diligent when my kids were smaller. I have several notebooks full of all the funny things they’ve said over the years. My notebooks are a priceless treasure. I also have to write down blog post ideas; if I don’t they are lost forever. I like to think my creative mind is in overdrive and I just can’t keep up with all the great ideas. Lol! :)

  6. Lucrecia says:

    LOVE the idea of the then and now project! My parents have been in the same house for 30+ years but this would be a wonderful gift for them as they consider downsizing in their retirement!

    Joyce, you are just up the interstate from me! Have you ever gone to scrap at the retreat center in Temple?

    • BlueFeathered1 says:

      No, Lucrecia, I didn’t even know there was a retreat center there for the digi afflicted. Temple is a little difficult for me to deal with as I drove my husband up there four days a week for four weeks for radiation for skin cancer — yes, skin cancer! Wear a hat, etc., etc., etc. So it’s not my happy place but it is moving more toward neutral now. Maybe some day soon I can say “I’m driving up to Temple” and be happy about it!

      • Lucrecia says:

        My beautiful mother in law passed away there, so it’s a bitter sweet place for us too! The retreat location is called Rockin R Retreats, literally in the middle of a corn field. It’s geared toward paper scrappers but I’m the envy of them all with my 5 minute set up and take down! :-)

        Thanks Steph!

        • If your looking for a retreat in Texas. I run one in Mt Calm Texas – it’s $160 from noon Friday to Sunday at 2pm. (option to add Thursday) I don’t run it for profit for me so this is cost to use the center. Email if your interested ronniecrowley@Prodigy.net. I’d love to have some more digi scrapper come play. Next retreat starts October 18th. We do October and March every year.

          • Tina says:

            I would love to attend a retreat with like minded scrappers. I helped to start a scrapbook club in my city about 12 years ago. It went gang busters for about ten years. I’ve been a little lost since it disbanded and I went digi. Many friendships were formed from that club of ladies. I think a digi scrapping retreat would be the best! I’m also a Texan and I love the Hill Country.

            • Tina – your very welcome to join us. We are mix of paper and digi. Also sometimes people are sewing and card making. We have no rules. Its totally a group of friends and the lady who runs it is a great friend. She is a quilter and built it a quilter retreat center but quilters need the same requirements so she allowed us scrappers use it. Our group has been going since she opened it. Its my 2 favorite weekends of the year. I love it even more now that all I have to pack is my laptop! I used to fill a van full of stuff when I did paper.

    • steph says:

      I just wanted to say it’s been fun to have you back commenting again Lucrecia! :)

  7. Carla says:

    Hi Steph et al =)

    I am looking for the video Steph said she made about Ana Forrest’s actions. I have to admit I have a hard time sometimes trying to find stuff on the site but maybe I’m just overlooking the obvious – not unheard of with me =) I am anxious to see how the actions work so if someone could point me in the right direction, thank you!

  8. I thought I’d share a then and now I did recently which Peppermint may like to do with her son. I take a first day and last day picture and wanted to show the vertical change in the last school year so I extracted him out of the picture to allow me to line the images up. http://www.flickr.com/photos/50905214@N08/7281349814/in/photostream

  9. Allie says:

    Great show guys! Joyce, I loved hearing about your process and your traveling! It sounds like so much fun!

    How far in advance did you start planning and prepping all of this?

    • BlueFeathered1 says:

      Well, it all started when I stood around and had my picture taken in the 1960s, but that probably isn’t what you mean! The idea was forming in the late summer, early fall (it’s hard to tell them apart in Texas) when I knew we were coming to Utah for the summer. I started physical preparations in November or December (usually easier to tell apart — big turkey, tree indoors, but hey . . . ). I started by running photos through Elements and I used enlargement software from OnOne (at least that’s what I think I used — it’s on my desktop in Sun City and I’m on my laptop in Logan). I did some test prints at 5×7 and decided they were too big for my purpose and then printed them all on 4×6 canvass size. For the photos I had trouble identifying an exact spot for, my sister Sharon acted and my consultant. I could have just done the shoot at that point as my physical prints were ready but I had plenty more time so I went through the rest of the prep of figuring our a good shooting order and the other things we talking about in the podcast.

      There are so many cool ways to interpret a then and now project and I found it really generated a lot of stories to record either directly about the photos or something that the photos triggered. For instance I found that I remembered virtually every dress I was photographed in.

      Happy journey!

  10. Allie says:

    I have a *newbie* question– completely unrelated to the show, but I thought it might be a good spot to put this– I love how the entire community comes out to answer!

    How is the best way to start getting involved with forums? I’ve never really “gotten” forums before, and I’m starting to try to get into them. I love the comments here, and on different blogs, where a discussion starts in the comments, but forums just seem like they are harder to get into. Any advice for some “first commenting”?

    I would love a SHOW on this as well!

    • Sarah says:

      I think the best way to get involved in forums is to post an intro in the new here section of the forum. Tell everyone a little bit about yourself, you’ll be surprised how many people welcome you and talk about things they have in common with you. Also peruse the forums and post on any of the threads that interest you (most scrapbooking forums have a chatter forum for non scrapbook related topics so that’s usually a fun place to start). And ask any questions that you may have or start a topic that you are interested in. I’ve found most scrapbooking forums to be totally friendly. You’re best bet is to find a store that you love and participate in the forums there. There are usually lots of great challenges as well which I always love for my own personal scrapbooking.

  11. SharonS says:

    I’m listening to you girls as I’m writing and really enjoyed this show! Joyce, I enjoyed hearing about your project–what fun you’ve had. Steph, so proud of you for working with your Mac. I’m extra glad I got to meet you in Seattle since you’re moving back to Idaho!

    I missed you girls last week. Thanks for the heads-up on hanging around for the countdown! Have a great day!

  12. Teri Merkins says:

    OMG!!! Joyce! You gave me a great idea! My grandma has this china hutch filled with random knick knacks that mean not a lot to me. To my mom, however, they mean the world. I think I need to do a project with her memories of these things and why they are important to her. Oh, what an exciting idea! Thanks!

    • BlueFeathered1 says:

      I’m so glad you’re inspired, Teri. It is a fun project and you’ll get to spend quality time with your Mom and Grandma. When I did this project I was volunteering at my local historical society cataloging so I think I went overboard with all the documentation. I had the very dry descriptive part of each item discussion (length, width, depth). I photographed it from every angle with close-ups of marks and decoration details. And I’d ask Mom about the item. As time passed her answers were shorter and shorter — so get on this project while you still can! I have put up a sample page from the photobook I made on my blog. It’s just a screen snip from MyPublisher.com because I don’t know how to share the entire book with you. You’ll get the idea of what I did. I’ll bet at least some of those knick-knacks end up meaning a lot more to you after you learn their stories and why your Mom values them so highly.

  13. SarahT says:

    Awesome show! You ladies crack me up!!!! I loved hearing Joyce on the show. It’s nice hearing about the projects that “regular scrapers” do. I’d love to have more shows like this.
    Re: then and now. I just inherited a TON of photos from my grandparents estate. There’s a ton of material in there for a then and now type of project. Lots of ideas swirling in my head! Thanks Joyce!

    • BlueFeathered1 says:

      Ya know, SarahT, I often feel things swirling around in my head — I just didn’t know they were ideas! I’m jealous of all your photos. I hope they were labeled by your grandparents but if not the sooner you start on ID-ing all the photos the higher your chance for success. If they are loose and therefore in random order, I’ll try to find a really interesting and helpful article I read, and used, about sorting your photos by age. If they are in albums, all the better!

  14. Heather M says:

    What is wrong with watching the weather channel??!! They have tv shows too. Ice Pilots, Hurricane Hunters, It Could Hapen Tomorrow. Good reality where you can learn things too. Just had to give you a hard time about this.

    • Katie says:

      So funny! My nephew loves to watch it also :)

    • Joyce says:

      But you know what frosts my lawn, or claps my thunder, or some other weather-related thing? They have TV shows! I want to see weather on the weather channel. And news on the news channel, too. Can you do something about that?

  15. AmyA says:

    Steph, I am trying to embrace my mac as well. Has anyone found great sites for helping convert a windows based mind to a mac mind? It sometimes feel like using your left hand when you are right handed. I am sure I make it more difficult for myself.

    Enjoy your shows always!

    • StudioWendy says:

      I’d love to know what kinds of challenges you’ve run into and what questions you have. I’d like to put together a video that would help new mac peeps! Feel free to email me too.

  16. Megan (glumirk) says:

    My husband loves looking at internet memes in between work and grad school, and just ran into a “meme” that reminded him of this show (or at least me talking about it).


    Don’t bother clicking through the rest of the site, but I thought it was a clever reproduction of a picture.